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Faindrah

Hi, so I've been trying to add bones to this character. I've tried doing it without pre-made bones and with pre-made bones. With the pre-made bones I've been able to get to the point where I can assign multiple bones, but it won't let me assign the wrist bones and I get this error (see image). I'm not understanding this and the help is in a language I do not understand and cannot find it in English. Is anyone able to help me figure out why this is happening? As you can see almost everything is pink in my figure, but the wrist stay blue. I'm not sure why that is. Also I'm not sure why the feet look like they do but I can't make it any bigger to check. I've tried making the figure bigger but then the bones won't line up.

Essentially I just want a posable version of my minifigure so I can draw my lego cartoons using Clip So I want to make the basic shape a posable 3D figure I can then use in Clip Paint so I can draw my comics. Thanks.

Published date : 14 days ago

Updated date : 5 days ago

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Noborius ◆

13 days ago
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Daz is not a good way to make models for CSP. The rig is not compatible for most parts. CSP also has no preset limits for rotation and cannot read them, so it is not necessary. Export it to blender and edit it there. Check weights from blender in weight paint mode. Make sure hierarchy in Blender's rig is all from a single root bone.

It's hard to advice without having a look at actual problematic parts in 3d software. I can only guess.
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Faindrah

5 days ago

Thank you this worked :)
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Noborius ◆

14 days ago
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Your model is not prepared right. It has no head bone and there is a big bone between the legs that is not needed. Those are used for animation, not for CSP. Look at an example doll. That is the ideal armature with perfect bone count, position and angles. It can differ, but it also means that you need to prep right to avoid unexpected results.

Add head, delete big bone, make sure root bone is groin/hip bone.

You probably could not map hands (there are no wrists in csp) because you failed to map the head. Hand bones are very small. Make sure they actually have bone weight for an entire hand and are not just for animation controls there. Check if they are connected to the lower arm bone.

Not sure if the small bones above are shoulders or just a gap? Looks very small and considering logos have no shoulders looks unnecessary.

Having less human bones is not as bad as having too many, but it still needs to have all human limbs.

To scale the model you can do it in 3d software (in blender you scale armature and as long as body is parented to it, it will scale together). Or you enter actual value in centimeters in the first tab (sketch) before bone mapping in Modeler.

Given how different your armature is, you will have trouble with basic poses, but you could record your own.
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Faindrah

13 days ago
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Hi, thank you for the response.

See that’s what I mean. The bones I have in place are not showing up in CS at all. I have a head bone and I don’t have a big bone in the feet. And all my bones are set up like a human skeleton in a 3D program. This problem is coming from CS itself reading my file and it’s why I need to correct it but CS won’t let me.
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Noborius ◆

13 days ago
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Not really. For example if you use Blender, it will cut off bones that have 0 weights or none upon fbx export. Did you weight paint all your bones properly?
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Faindrah

13 days ago
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I did yes. I use DAZ for making 3D characters. I don't know how to use blender for creating bones or weights or anything like that. But yes I did create the weight maps and assigned the geometry and set up the moving limits to create a character. The character itself works in blender alright (a bit of strange movements) but otherwise it's working perfectly in a 3D program, but I want the character in CS so I can paint the characters all in CS Paint. Really I just want to not have to pose and render from a 3D program first before doing the actual drawing. Since it makes no sense to do the drawing that way as the render is just going to be junked at the end anyways it's a waste of time and resources. So I need to be able to get this character skeleton of a basic minifigure to be in CS Paint. It doesn't have to be made complicated or perfectly since I'll be using it to draw my sketch lines from and that's it. The rest is going to be done freehand.
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Noborius ◆

13 days ago
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Daz is not a good way to make models for CSP. The rig is not compatible for most parts. CSP also has no preset limits for rotation and cannot read them, so it is not necessary. Export it to blender and edit it there. Check weights from blender in weight paint mode. Make sure hierarchy in Blender's rig is all from a single root bone.

It's hard to advice without having a look at actual problematic parts in 3d software. I can only guess.
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ViniciusLucci

13 days ago
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hey there. that's the first time I see someone talking about 3D imported models from blender or other. I'm having a trouble since the 2.9 update. my model's feet always get crazy when I change poses, or location, then duplicate it. do you guys know what to do to fix it? thanks.
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Noborius ◆

13 days ago
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That's a bug I have confirmed with v3. I reported it already and support is working on it. Rasterize 3d layer before image export ant it won't show. However when duplicating you will have to reapply the pose :(
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ViniciusLucci

12 days ago
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thanks. it's what I'm doing for now. Good to know that support team is working on it.
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